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Poster: moviefan1993 Date: Sep 12, 2009 9:48am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Bat (1926) - PD?

Thanks for the Information Video_Cellar, I'm working on getting the film uploaded to the archive.

None of the stuff is Under Copyright, as with the paticular version I have - there's barely any music in it - if it was a revised score I'm guessing they'd score the whole thing.

It's not the greatest version about as it was an Old 16mm print I bought and transfered to dvd - So it should be the original, unchanged version.

Thanks, John.

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Poster: anh Mike Date: Sep 12, 2009 10:27am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Bat (1926) - PD? 16mm-DVD

Is there a dirt cheap way to copy 16mm to DVD. I have a friend who has 16mm of zorros fighting legion serial and Don winlsow of the navy serial (I know copies exist on IA) but usually fair. Just a curious thought.

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Poster: moviefan1993 Date: Sep 12, 2009 10:31am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Bat (1926) - PD? 16mm-DVD

I used a Company that I found in my local newspaper, I can't remember the name though...Cost me about $150

Other than that, I've heard good things about Evermedia - it's currently $500 for 95 minutes of footage there.

However, if you have somewhere you can set a projector up with a decent camera (preferrably with an Ext. Microphone) you can just film the movie playing and record the sound from the speaker. I've done this and it wasn't bad quality - providing you make the image smaller than 46" - Most do this.

~John

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Poster: anh Mike Date: Sep 12, 2009 10:49am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Bat (1926) - PD? 16mm-DVD

thanks that sounds cheap and helpful. I have to check around for 16mm projector in the chicago area. What about cleaning the film?? I heard that cleaning the film improves picture quality but costly. Is there a cheap way of doing that?

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Poster: moviefan1993 Date: Sep 12, 2009 11:01am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Bat (1926) - PD? 16mm-DVD

Well, Solvon is what I usually use and it costs me about $100 for a Gallon which I bought in 2006 and still haven't finished! You can buy it in Quarts and Half-Gallons too.

All you do is pour a little onto an anti-static cloth and rub it along the dirty parts of the spool - pretty easy.

As for movie projectors, I usually look around eBay - i Bought mine for $125, just looking round now they range from the $50-$600 price mark.



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Poster: anh Mike Date: Sep 12, 2009 11:19am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Bat (1926) - PD? 16mm-DVD

one last thing I have heard the Alpha video released a good copy of the silent film. Just to let ya know.

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Poster: moviefan1993 Date: Sep 12, 2009 11:22am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Bat (1926) - PD? 16mm-DVD

Thanks for the Information - that might have to be a purchase!

The Copy I have is completely Silent, as my reliable sources told me it was meant to be played in the Cinema/Theater with a live pianist or Organist playing along so I'd quite like to see a version with a new score.

NB: About Cleaning Solutions - I've also used Just water. Seems to work great - not a clue why! I tried it out on a film I had a duplicate of and it was fine.

~John

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Poster: anh Mike Date: Sep 13, 2009 10:33am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: 16mm-DVD

OK. can you use a white screen instead of the wall to copy the film? That should inprove the quality. I never done anything like this before. In fact my friend will have to show me how to run the projector. They have the projector and films and I can get a video camera. Another friend said that it will not look good. I am not going to pay for $$$ for these serials, so it the wall or nothing.

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Poster: JohnQuigley Date: Sep 16, 2009 6:40am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: 16mm-DVD

Yes, anything white will work.


This post was modified by JohnQuigley on 2009-09-16 13:40:14

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Poster: anh Mike Date: Sep 16, 2009 8:14am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: 16mm-DVD

Thanks for the reply. I'm planning on starting the 2nd week of Oct. I got everything screen, DVCam, projector film. I think I need to buy a headhpone to mic adaptor. I think the projectors, being old, have the old large head phone jacks. That should improve the sound at least. The DVcam has a built in external mic and my friends said that it picks up sound well.

ANY STEP BY STEP ADVISE INSTRUCTIONS YOU CAN THINK TO IMPROVE WILL BE HELPFUL. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE ASSISTANCE.

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Poster: philipt75 Date: Oct 1, 2009 8:17pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: 16mm-DVD

Watch out with running 16mm through a projector, you could very easily mess up your film if the projector is in less than perfect shape. If you must, then get a manual feed so you can thread yourself. Auto feeds, if the leader is not in tip top shape, can get stuck half way through and the mechanism is very unforgiving, it will keep feeding the film and it will scrunch up the film inside the projector. Once that happens, the film is rendered useless. If you are trying to DIY at home transfer using a projector, you'll either get the flicker, or if you have a 5blade 24 frames per second projector, everyone will be running around very fast and unnaturally, you'll also, depending on the camera you are using to video tape, a loss in the original quality. Even some of the lenses will give you less quality than what the original film looks like. The only way to go is scanning from the gate, no projection, no lenses, mirrors. Even if you go with a 'professional' transfer company, most are just transferring like you would try at home, you must vouch the company and ask for a video seeing the professional equipment in action like this company below.
http://www.gotmemories.com/FAQs/how-to-transfer-16mm-film-to-dvd.html

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Poster: anh Mike Date: Oct 6, 2009 11:40am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: 16mm-DVD

I read there is software to remove the flicker. Anyways my friend machine is shot. And the project is on hold until I find 16mm projector. And if I wanted to go profession it would cost too much and they would refuse to do w/o proof the film is in Pulbic domain.

BTW 5 blade 24 frames/sec. I understand that the frames are different. I guessing software would change that.

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Poster: anh Mike Date: Sep 12, 2009 11:12am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: The Bat (1926) - PD? 16mm-DVD

Things just got on the costly side. I should charge if I do it. Or maybe ask my friends. Zorro's not the concern but Don winslow would be. I have inspected the films either and have no idea the last time played.